Hillary Clinton depositon on Epstein files: "I finished testifying. I answered every one of their questions as fully. I never met Epstein, had any connection or communication with him. I knew Ghislaine Maxwell casually, as an acquaintance. It was disappointing they refused to hold public a hearing."

[u/ControlCAD]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=GvK6hpAlGoA

[u/trejj]

"They refused to hold a public hearing."

- The most transparent government in history.

[u/Khaldara → u/trejj]

The most transparently corrupt installed by the most transparently stupid

[u/smooth_like_a_goat → u/Khaldara]

And permitted to hold onto power by the rest of the spineless, lazy fucks over there.

[u/Ambitious-Concern-42 → u/smooth_like_a_goat]

Spineless lazy fucks is the only way to describe the American voting public. They are responsible for this mess.

[u/Masterofunlocking1 → u/trejj]

How this isn't the biggest red flag for everyone is beyond me. If you aren't guilty or trying to hide something, you don't try this hard to cover it up

[u/HanseaticHamburglar → u/Masterofunlocking1]

everyone, or almost everyone knows he is guilty as sin.

Its just that some people think its okay because he is "their guy".

Thats what it comes down to. How flexible are the morals of supposedly "conservative" Americans.

[u/DigNitty → u/HanseaticHamburglar]

“The ends justify the means”

That’s the whole thing. And when you believe God chose your candidate, when the Ends are literally divine, then Any Means is justifiable.

There is literally no line he can cross.

[u/No_Fairweathers → u/DigNitty]

Their God isn't a real belief they hold for any other reason than it absolves them of any consequences for their moral and societal shortcomings. They are taught that all they need to do is say sorry to a magic man in the sky, believe that he will forgive them, and persecute anyone that says otherwise, and they can do whatever to whoever they want and still get into a secret club in the after life that may or may not exist.

They don't understand the actual teachings or belief systems of this religion or that they would be the first ones cast to hell, they pick and choose what to believe from the book that justifies their immoral, black and grotesque hearts.

An overwhelming amount of Christians are deeply sickening narcissists that use God to protect themselves from societal consequences of their actions.

[u/dennismfrancisart → u/DigNitty]

Here's the real secret they won't tell you. They really don't believe in God. They believe in whatever suits them in the moment. If they believed in the god of Moses or the words of the messiah, they would actually follow scripture. They can't because its all too inconvenient.

[u/LunDeus → u/Masterofunlocking1]

But also “…only guilty people plead the fifth.” 🍊 🤡

[u/blackkettle → u/trejj]

Such a breath of fresh air to listen to someone talk who is able to string together thoughts and words into coherent messages. JFC. Probably the main reason they refused the public hearing.

[u/jv371 → u/blackkettle]

Remember when this was normal!?

[u/Regenbooggeit → u/jv371]

Yes but it’s boring so why would all the brainrotted idiots vote for this? We need chaos 24/7 for the dopamine junkies!!

[u/LilCasket → u/Regenbooggeit]

I've heard that some people voted the way they did because Trump was entertaining. I wish I was kidding.

[u/Regenbooggeit → u/LilCasket]

I believe you instantly. However deplorable, Trump is very charismatic to a lot of people, that’s why it’s so cult-y. I can’t see it, but ya know..

[u/vertigo88 → u/Regenbooggeit]

Charismatic to those with a reading level under the fourth grade.

[u/Veaeate → u/jv371]

As a Canadian, I just want to say this past year from a political perspective has been like waking up and walking outside on a cool spring morning and taking in that first breath of cool crisp air. Boring politics has been absolutely wonderful since having Carney voted in. The way politics should be.

[u/DaoFerret → u/Veaeate]

As someone who felt that way after Biden was elected, be warned: the madness can quickly return.

[u/vertigo88 → u/DaoFerret]

The alternative right now is the feckless human called PP who lost his own riding of many years because he is that thoroughly disliked.

Until the PCs can actually give us a better candidate that isn’t half American or a career politician, we thankfully are stuck with Carney.

[u/bianary → u/vertigo88]

Don't worry, they're prepping Harper's PR already to make him look like he's not as rabidly pro-US as he actually is.

[u/fiero-fire → u/trejj]

Let's not forget they are cool with using AI to modify people's photos and video in official accounts like they did with the Minnesota ICE church protester. They recorded the entire hearing we cannot trust anything they release at this point because this admin has zero morals or ethics

[u/Shurikane → u/trejj]

At this point I just wonder what it's gonna take. Or if everything that could be done has already been done and now a whole bunch of people are waiting to see who's gonna throw the first offense.

Like, that bullshit has been on for over a decade now. The GOP fucks something up beyond recognition, then turns around and says "We fixed it and now it's the best thing ever!" without an ounce of shame. The pattern has been as obvious as the sun in the sky for so long that I can't even find the heart to make jokes about it. Fuck, you know what, the joking itself has been weaponized. Just think of all the comment threads that contain a deluge of "but how else am I gonna create value for the shareholders /s" At this point it's just not funny anymore, it's sad and pathetic, it's just watching learned helplessness on a national scale.

Pointing out the GOP's contradictions doesn't work because they openly do not give a shit. So who are we pointing the contradictions for? The common people? The common people who had over a decade to pick a side? By now we've got the GOP zealots who believe with all their heart that everything the Dems are doing is the work of the devil, we've got the Dem supporters who desperately want to stop the GOP somehow, and we've got the people who have been sitting on the fence for so long now that the fence posts are poking out of their mouths.

Like, you'd think that at the point we're at, not just one but a whole bunch of people are gonna turn around and yell at the GOP "No, your government is bullshit, your claims are bullshit, everything you're doing is fucking bullshit and everything your president's saying is coming straight from his asshole!" But it's not happening, I don't know, either everyone's precious sense of decorum is binding them all to inaction or something. I don't know why 'cause that fuckin' prez sure ain't havin' any sense of decorum and his state of the union shit was the smuggest I have seen him in my entire lifetime. I've gotten teabagged by kids on online shooters with less smugness than that.

I don't know. I'm just on the outside looking in and the whole situation feels like just complete randomness and no one significant is calling it out for what it is, directly, honestly, in-your-face.

[u/OMGitisCrabMan → u/trejj]

The Clinton's want to testify publicly, and trump won't testify at all because we ALL know he would at the very least purger himself. Why are republicans graded on such a fucking curve?

[u/bedbuffaloes → u/OMGitisCrabMan]

Perjure.

[u/NWASicarius → u/trejj]

She wanted a public hearing. She likely even wants a trial. I don't think Hillary is guilty of anything involving Epstein. Maybe her husband is, but it has been proven that Hillary is not fully lock-step with her husband. She is an independent woman that does her own thing. It's just shocking for MAGA to grasp that concept since they view women as men's property. Hillary knows two things: 1) Any crime they can stick her with will be peanuts; 2) She knows they won't do shit to her because it risks exploiting A LOT of them for way more heinous crimes. 😂😂

[u/zepol_xela → u/trejj]

They are truly transparent. As in that we can see right through their bullshit.

[u/WhyAmINotStudying → u/trejj]

They want to edit it to make her look terrible. You can always trust them to lie.

[u/ShikaMoru → u/trejj]

Someone should really show how much republican voters voted on hate and need to admit it. Unless they're dumb as rocks no one should have really thought that Trump had a plan for government efficiency, transparency, or even affordability but deporting immigrants it was clear as day that they were going to go all in on that

[u/disco_disaster → u/ShikaMoru]

My grandma voted for Trump, but she would be labeled as a communist by the republicans.

She thinks the deportations are horrific, believes in feminism, LGBTQ+ rights, social welfare etc. She doesn’t seem to believe in a single major conservative topic.

There’s a major disconnect happening. A lot of these people are simply ignorant to the republican agenda. It’s maddening because she complains about Trump, but supports him? She acts surprised by a lot of his actions.

I don’t understand her line of thought. She’s not the brightest, but is overall a good person.

I think the news had a lot to do with it.

It’s hard to reconcile especially as a minority myself.

[u/bedbuffaloes → u/ShikaMoru]

I'd love that but it wouldn't work. All they'll do is get butt-hurt because we're being "mean" and "arrogant" and double, if not triple, down. These folks (the majority of them, anyway) are not willing or even capable of self-reflection. Not how their brains work.

[u/ObeseVegetable → u/ShikaMoru]

He doesn’t have any plan, just reactionary “fuck you”s to things that upset him. 

He’s been talking about healthcare for 9 years and still doesn’t have a single suggestion. 

Just a concept of a plan he refuses to share any details on but it definitely exists it just goes to a different school. 

[u/Elzam]

So Melania should be coming up to testify if pulling in Hilary was an attempt to get knowledge regarding her husband, right?

She was married to Trump during the time periods in dispute, may have knowledge of his 13,000 mentions in the files, and no executive privilege can extend to her.

[u/Voting101 → u/Elzam]

Melania also started her modeling career at Karin models which was owned by convicted rapist and Epstein associate Jean-Luc Brunel. After Jean-Luc was kicked out of Karin models Epstein gave him 1 million dollars to start MC2 model management. Jean-Luc Brunel also lived in Trump Tower. Melania was introduced to Trump by Zampolli Paola who was recently appointed by Trump to head of the Kennedy center. The first public photos of Trump and Melania coincide very closely to the first time we see pictures of Trump and Ghislaine chumming it up.

[u/enakcm → u/Voting101]

So basically she is the one that stuck. Just everything is awful about the guy.

[u/No-Good-One-Shoe → u/enakcm]

They can ask Melania about this one. https://imgur.com/a/kNWTAwL

[u/the_djd → u/No-Good-One-Shoe]

"You must be happy tho"

Oof. Hindsight's a bitch on this one seeing as how he probably wouldn't be dead right now if Trump lost 2016

[u/loogie97 → u/No-Good-One-Shoe]

Didn’t even bother to change the default sig.

[u/GhostofAyabe → u/Elzam]

She was part of the ring, Epstein trafficked her to Trump. Call it an "introduction" if you like.

[u/KJew → u/GhostofAyabe]

Better watch out or she might threaten to sue you for saying that like she did to Michael Wolff. Of course, she won't go through with it though.

[u/dukie33066 → u/KJew]

Discovery....

[u/No-Good-One-Shoe → u/dukie33066]

A lot of discoveries 

https://imgur.com/a/kNWTAwL

[u/strategiclurker → u/KJew]

Oh gawd, like who even cares at this point? This is a lawless nation, if everyone treated the law like the government and the Trump family does then the entire system would simply be overwhelmed by all the chaos. If you don't want that to continue, think long and hard about what you should do coming autumn.

[u/No-Good-One-Shoe → u/KJew]

Will she sue me for posting this?

https://imgur.com/a/kNWTAwL

[u/wimpires → u/GhostofAyabe]

I feel like not enough is said about the fact that Virginia Guiffre was literally trafficked FROM Mar-a-lago. I don't understand how Trump can not claim to know what was going on when his literal employees were being trafficked to Epstein via Maxwell in the early 2000's

[u/Time-Earth8125 → u/GhostofAyabe]

Yeah Melania was Epstein's throwaway most likely

[u/the_last_0ne → u/Elzam]

Just to catch you up, there were 38000 mentions in the files that got released. Raskin did the "closed doors review of all the files" and said when he searched Trumps name it came back with over 1 million hits. Granted some of those are undoubtedly within the same document but still crazy if it's true.

[u/misdirected_asshole]

Why is Hillary Clinton - a woman who never met Jeffrey Epstein - testifying before even a single one of the men who were admitted long time friends and associates?

[u/Dave1307 → u/misdirected_asshole]

Because the long time friends and associates are in charge of the "investigation"

[u/misdirected_asshole → u/Dave1307]

Thats a Bingo

[u/Sewer-Urchin → u/misdirected_asshole]

We just say 'bingo' :p

[u/BuckyMcBuckles → u/Sewer-Urchin]

BINGO! How fun!

[u/DocBrown_MD → u/Dave1307]

We have investigated ourselves and cleared ourselves of any wrongdoing!

[u/BigJellyfish1906 → u/misdirected_asshole]

Can you name a different first lady who had met Epstein? And knew him at the time he was committing these crimes? I can. 

[u/misdirected_asshole → u/BigJellyfish1906]

I dont really care, do you?

[u/SirArthurIV → u/misdirected_asshole]

Because Jeffrey Epstein gave A LOT of money to the Clinton Foundation. Enough to suspect that maybe perhaps they spoke once or twice.

[u/BeerPoweredNonsense → u/SirArthurIV]

Epstein lent Bill Clinton his personal jet on several occasions so that Bill could use it to fly around on foundation-related business.

If his wife - a clever politician - was completely unaware of this - or, worse, thought nothing of it... well, it suggests that she was actually not that clever.

[u/owls_unite → u/BeerPoweredNonsense]

Claiming that she never met or communicated with him is extremely surprising to me. He'd meet with lots of people - connecting them was one of his "businesses". She's claiming that they've never even exchanged emails on any subject at all, something he'd done with a ton of people who are not necessarily implicated in his sharing his crimes.

[u/Raytoryu → u/owls_unite]

On the other hand, The magats have such a strong hate-boner for her that if they had anything about her in the files, they'd have released it by now

[u/FrogsOnALog → u/Raytoryu]

They wouldn’t be able to shut the fuck up lol

[u/Laiko_Kairen → u/owls_unite]

With all of the "HILARY'S EMAILS" bullshit for years, if there were any emails to Epstein, they'd have been found by now right?

[u/iknighty → u/owls_unite]

I mean, there's no communication between here and Epstein in the emails released. So her claim is pretty believable. If there were any Trump would have released them front and centre.

[u/mrtomjones → u/BeerPoweredNonsense]

Rich guy with jet lends it to someone for foundation business isn't something you might necessarily expect of anything in Hillary's spot

[u/Iron_Knight7 → u/misdirected_asshole]

Because Republicans have a perpetual hard on for finding something, anything, they can use to finally "get" her. She didn't shrink away after they failed to impeach Bill. She continued to have a moderately successful political career of her own after being just a First Lady. She ran against and dared to disparage their Mango Messiah. And despite all their sound and fury over emails and Benghazi, they still haven't found any actual evidence of actual crimes they can charge her with. She's the "the one who got away" and they hate her for it.

[u/fix_until_broken → u/Iron_Knight7]

Just to comment on the "moderately successful political career" after being first lady, she was a US Senator for 8 years, ran for president in 2008, Secretary of State for 4 years, and Democrat nominee for president in 2016.

That would be a huge list of achievements for anyone else.

[u/ShupGlitto → u/fix_until_broken]

Also she got more votes than Trump.

[u/wahooo92 → u/fix_until_broken]

Further proof that an “average” woman is the same as a successful man. The double standards are insane.

[u/bijanfrisee → u/wahooo92]

I still can't believe that majority of white women voted for Trump instead of putting her in the white house. I thought it'd be like Barack and the black vote.

[u/Stolehtreb → u/wahooo92]

It’s just a qualifier that is hinged on her not having won the presidency. I really don’t think this would have been a different descriptor if it had been a man. I very actively will call out when we are being unfair to someone based on social constructs and biases, but I really think this one is a reach.

[u/R_Schuhart → u/wahooo92]

You mean the opposite I take it, that it is proof that 'a successful woman is the same as an average man'? Otherwise it makes little sense. Since what is an outstanding accomplishment for Hillary is seen as 'moderately successful'.

[u/hkedik → u/Iron_Knight7]

I'm not sure about the one who got away - they've been pretty successful in making her a scapegoat. The public perception of Hillary is (unfairly) in the gutter because of relentless smear campaigns.

[u/Iron_Knight7 → u/hkedik]

True. But they've never been able to actually convict her of anything. Every accusation they've leveled against her has turned out to be overblown, undercooked, or just plain false. While not without her own baggage or mistakes, she's never been the monster they keep trying to paint her as and it pisses them off when she doesn't play by their rules.

True, it hasn't helped her public perception. But that speaks more to how willfully stupid and deliberately ignorant the public is.

[u/hkedik → u/Iron_Knight7]

I don’t disagree with much of what you say - I just don’t think they ever expected criminal charges to stick, I don’t think that was ever the point. It’s all just about influencing public perception.

[u/Iron_Knight7 → u/hkedik]

Which, again, sadly demonstrates how easily influenced some of the public is. Or rather, how selectively they can be influenced. Folks are all up in arms about Maxwell attending Chelsey's wedding in 2010 (as a +1 guest to someone actually invited.) Meanwhile, an impeached, indicted, convicted and adjudicated liar, fraud, rapist, and attempted insurrectionist with actual connections to Epstein is sitting in the Oval Office.

Again.

[u/CarnieGamer → u/Iron_Knight7]

"She didn't shrink away after they failed to impeach Bill."

They DID impeach Bill, for lying under oath.

[u/Pipe_Memes → u/CarnieGamer]

They impeached Bill for lying about a blowjob from an adult. But we have people in office who were raping children and nothing.

At the absolute least they are covering for other people who raped children, which is still much worse than lying about a blowjob from a consenting adult.

[u/ObiShaneKenobi → u/Pipe_Memes]

And wasn’t there a specific definition of “sex” the investigators were doing that didn’t include oral?

Regardless, imagine impeaching Trump over lying about a blowjob simply because the real reason for the investigation (Arkansas land deals?) was a dead end.

[u/RogueEyebrow → u/ObiShaneKenobi]

That is correct, Bill technically did not lie based on the definition they used for "sexual relations." People forget he was an attorney.

[u/binz17 → u/Pipe_Memes]

Lying under oath* Trump lies, his handlers are juuuuust smart enough to know not to put him in a situation where his compulsive lying can have legal ramifications.

[u/Iron_Knight7 → u/CarnieGamer]

Pardon me. They did impeach Bill. They just failed to convict and remove him.

Over lying to federal authorities.

...

Meanwhile, they put an impeached, indicted, convicted and adjudicated liar, fraud, rapist, and attempted insurrectionist back in office.

Yup. Some ironclad morals and standards those Republicans have.

(/s for that last bit, just in case.)

[u/BrooklynSmash → u/CarnieGamer]

What a fuckin difference thirty years makes

Lying under oath went from an impeachable offense to a prerequisite.

[u/HanseaticHamburglar → u/BrooklynSmash]

noo

what a difference the letter next to their names does!

[u/PopGoesTehWoozle → u/Iron_Knight7]

The same shitstains who yell TDS because people are upset that Dear Leader started a secret police force with a budget larger than most countries military budget that can murder citizens in broad daylight with impunity and detain citizens indefinitely iand subject children to inhuman conditions, can't stop foaming at the mouth for buttery males and Benghazi

[u/Forcistus → u/misdirected_asshole]

The only person MAGA hates more than Obama is Hilary. Thet are still talking ablut Benghazi and her emails to this day.

[u/misterxboxnj → u/Forcistus]

It's crazy. They hate her way more than Bill.

[u/JunkSack → u/misterxboxnj]

Yeah, she’s a woman

[u/AaronRodgersMustache → u/JunkSack]

Probably column A, column B. Women, anyone a different color. Look how they start the smear campaign on anyone who dares to buck the trend. AOC has been getting the Hillary treatment since she got elected, to stymie any future ambitions she might have from the get-go. Same with Mamdani.

[u/trapper2530 → u/misterxboxnj]

Yet they kept using bills problems and issues against her in the election like he was running again.

[u/FinancialReserve6427 → u/misdirected_asshole]

because there will be people who will insist she knows more or is part of it. and if all eyes are on her and Bill, their side gets out of the public scrutiny. 

[u/cobrafountain → u/misdirected_asshole]

I thought one of them was at Chelsea Clinton’s wedding, must have been Maxwell if that’s who she’s admitting knowing

[u/aspenpurdue → u/cobrafountain]

Yes, Maxwell was a + 1 of an invited guest. That is how she got to Chelsea's wedding.

[u/Flashy_Tension_891]

Crickets from the other side.

Disappointing indeed.

[u/Jabromosdef → u/Flashy_Tension_891]

It’s not crickets. They have started heavily focusing on Clinton’s and Gates. I just got told the adrenochrome story yesterday. Everyone involved are surprisingly the people they already hate. I also ask why is Trump covering for these “liberal” pedos and the floundering begins. What’s telling is the fervor has dipped and instead of it being anger it feels like they just want it to go away.

[u/mercfan3 → u/Jabromosdef]

And what people don’t get is if there was an allegation against the Clintons..we’d know.

[u/JG98 → u/mercfan3]

If there was even the slightest bit that they could grasp onto then it would have been everywhere by now. Faux news would have blasted into the Republican sphere and it would have flooded the internet, but they have nothing which I am sure irks Trump and his other buddies who are associate with Epstein.

[u/hicketre2006 → u/Jabromosdef]

Eh. Idk. -- I'm pretty convinced these rich oligarchs only give a damn about conservatism/liberalism when it comes to sourcing their votes. Otherwise, they don't give a damn what we call them. Party of clowns, for all they care.

It's like a good ol boys club. Except the good boys are bad BAD women and men running a shadow government. Give the poor something to complain about, and then do whatever they want on the side. (Bread and circus, right? Ha)

This whole country is so busy staring at our phones and fighting over which side is right. Nobody is realizing that we're mostly ALL right, and it's the rich that need to... well... take your pick I guess.

[u/clubdon → u/Jabromosdef]

What’s the adrenochrome story? Thought that was just a fear and loathing schtick.

[u/DamonLazer → u/clubdon]

Oh you sweet summer child.

It’s connected to the “pizzagate” conspiracy theory, among others, basically claiming that even though adrenochrome can be readily synthesized, the rich elite are extracting it from newborn children to give them secret powers or eternal youth or some shit like that.

[u/monaforever → u/DamonLazer]

I really don't understand conspiracy theories like this where its extremely easy to prove false. If rich people were stealing babies souls for the fountain of youth, wouldn't we notice when they're suddenly young and hot and/or living forever? Instead we get ugly aging decrepit rich people with bad plastic surgery.

[u/DamonLazer → u/monaforever]

Like pretty much all conspiracy theories, the motivation in believing it is to feel like being in on some big secret that no one else recognizes, even the ostensibly “smart” people (especially the smart people, since people that believe these things are desperate to feel smart, and if they know something that the “smart” people don’t know, then the conspiracy theorist becomes the smart one and the so-called smart people are then clueless to what’s “really going on” and stupidly believe the “official narrative.”)

[u/Heavy_Law9880 → u/clubdon]

It's made up bullshit.

[u/RobDoingStuff → u/Flashy_Tension_891]

Never punished for crickets so that will continue

[u/Forcistus]

There was literally no reason not to do this in public unless it was going to be in bad faith which, of course, it was.

I don't think a single Republican asked Bondi about Epstein during her hearing. It's such insane doublethink.

[u/mercfan3 → u/Forcistus]

They asked her about UFO’s.

[u/CompetitiveSport1 → u/mercfan3]

which, to be fair, is actually something she expressed interest in during her campaign. But obviously yesterday was absolutely not the time to be asking about that lol

[u/guesswho135 → u/Forcistus]

There was literally no reason not to do this in public unless it was going to be in bad faith which, of course, it was.

It shouldn't have happened at all

[u/darknecross → u/Forcistus]

Just wait for the AI video of Hilary Clinton in the deposition confessing to everything and the admin to claim it’s legit.

Then it’s just her word against theirs pertaining to what actually happened.

[u/red-bot]

Weren’t we concerned about Bill? Not Hillary?

[u/CondescendingShitbag → u/red-bot]

Bill's testimony is scheduled for today.

[u/popey123 → u/CondescendingShitbag]

I think he will say the exact same thing

[u/CondescendingShitbag → u/popey123]

Perhaps, but I think he might have more photos and emails to explain than his wife did.

[u/earnestlikehemingway → u/CondescendingShitbag]

Hello my name is Buba.

[u/Aperture_TestSubject → u/earnestlikehemingway]

Could you imagine the fucking uproar if that was his opening sentence, lol

[u/Infinit777 → u/earnestlikehemingway]

Nah he's gonna Ironman it

"I AM Bubba!"

[u/OriginalFatPickle → u/earnestlikehemingway]

"Did you have sexual relations with Individual #1?"

[u/mike353511 → u/CondescendingShitbag]

It will all be the same as always. Deflect and deny everything. Admit nothing.

[u/radicallyhip → u/popey123]

"Trump indeed sucked my dick."

[u/DirtyBastareaud → u/radicallyhip]

I have never hoped for somebody to say something more

[u/GodOfDarkLaughter → u/DirtyBastareaud]

How are they going to teach this period of time in school? "The scandal came to a head...Bryant, stop laughing!...when it turned out that the current president had indeed sucked the former president's dick on pedo rape island...and this WILL be on the quiz, Ashleigh, so I'd suggest actually using that notebook. What do you mean you'll just remember that part?"

[u/jeango → u/radicallyhip]

« I did Not have sexual relationships with Trump »

[u/Squeezitgirdle → u/jeango]

• but if I did, it's cause he begged for it.

[u/Im_with_stooopid → u/radicallyhip]

"Trump never sucked my dick but Ghislaine Maxwell had a horse named Bubba, Maybe ask it?"

[u/Thybro → u/radicallyhip]

“I did have sexual relations with that current President”

Or another classic:

“Mr. Clinton is the there a video of you being fellatioed by Mr. Trump?”

“It depends on what the definition of ‘is’ is”

[u/fuckyourcanoes → u/popey123]

He won't, because there is photographic evidence that he met Epstein and he's not stupid.

[u/ObiShaneKenobi → u/fuckyourcanoes]

Yea Bill, Michael Jackson, and Oprah on Epstein’s plane. We need to get to the bottom of this.

[u/Institute11 → u/popey123]

I don't think he will get away with saying he never met Epstein.

[u/hitbythebus → u/popey123]

I personally hope he brags about how huge his saxophone looked in Trump’s tiny hands while Trump was blowing it.

[u/N8dork2020 → u/red-bot]

Bill didn’t run against Trump

[u/Alundra828 → u/red-bot]

Hillary was just due to testify a day before Bill. No harm in grilling both of them. Clearly Bill has a lot more to talk about, since I personally don't recall Hillary having any photos with Epstein... whereas the story is somewhat different when it comes to Bill.

[u/Kr1sys → u/Alundra828]

They could also have the guy in the white house testify. We have at least one or two pictures more of them together.

If they were serious about investigating, I'd probably look there.

[u/southpaw85]

This was playing in the locker room when I was changing into my gym clothes yesterday. I started laughing when she mentioned how they were asking her about UFOs. An older guy saw me laughing and said “she’s just trying to change the subject” angrily. I just laughed at him and said “She’s talking about the questions the committee asked her. It sounds like THEY were trying to change the subject” he just gave me a dirty look and walked off.

[u/CaptainDudeGuy → u/southpaw85]

Mark my words: The UFO thing was just a(nother) cockamamie distraction tactic that some MAGA thinktanker successfully pitched in their latest "flood the zone" meeting.

They used high level clearance to cook up some fake evidence to "leak" to multiple outlets, including Spielberg, and tried to time it all to steal media attention before midterms.

The conservative playbook is very small.

[u/Quantization → u/CaptainDudeGuy]

Their playbook is small but confusingly, effective. To many of us it is pretty eye opening. Most humans just aren't as smart as we generally give them credit for. We truly do be animals through and through.

[u/southpaw85 → u/Quantization]

K.I.S.S.

Keep

It

Simple

Stupid

Is a well known acronym because of how effective it is.

[u/TirNaCrainnOg → u/CaptainDudeGuy]

The UFO stuff is hilarious. I have a very close releative that is very obsessed with them over the last 1-2 years, talking about disclourse and its happening.

Just like pizzagate, all of this has been set up by people to change the discourse and point attention away from what actually matters.

[u/PatsyPage → u/southpaw85]

Why is anyone mad at her and not Trump? He’s the one in there more than anyone else. It’s not like Bill brought Hilary to tag along. 

This country hates women more than it hates pedophiles. 

[u/runnerkim]

What a joke. She also said towards the end of the hearing they were asking about UFOs

Why on Earth did that need to be in a closed door hearing? Oh right, now they can lie about it all

[u/inspired_fire → u/runnerkim]

UFOs and Pizzagate! The party of QAnon were grilling the former First Lady and Secretary of State about a QAnon conspiracy theory about trafficking children during a hearing about a child trafficker. How is this even real life?

[u/ftatman]

Would be more interested in Bill’s testimony tbh

[u/H_J_Moody → u/ftatman]

Stay tuned. It’s scheduled for today. Though it’s private too so we’ll never know what it actually said. We’ll get Bill’s side and Trump’s side.

[u/the_last_0ne → u/H_J_Moody]

As far as I'm concerned with this "most transparent administration in history", anything they choose to keep behind closed doors, I will automatically believe nothing they say, and everything the other person says. If they wanted us to know what actually happened then we would know. They've shown themselves to be blatant liars. I can only assume they are always lying at this point.

[u/djanes376 → u/H_J_Moody]

We should get transcripts and accounts from dem members of the council.

[u/Maj0r_Sarcasm → u/djanes376]

Probably get a photo from Boebert

[u/Nu-Hir → u/Maj0r_Sarcasm]

She's under the desk for Bill.

[u/yankdevil → u/ftatman]

For some reason the Republican House members don't want you to see his testimony.

[u/Fried_puri → u/yankdevil]

This way they can spin whatever lies they want from that hearing and say it is the truth. Oh and to add to the pile they’ll just say it was the Clintons who refused to have a public hearing (as if that makes any sense whatsoever). 

[u/Mountain3Pointer]

You know, if the Clinton's were in the files with any of the same context, situations, or actions as Donald Trump I am positive they would have been the first files released and they would already be in jail.

[u/PoorLewis]

The Trump administration has fired more than 70% of the civil servants at the State Department’s Trafficking in Persons Office.

[u/whatsaphoto → u/PoorLewis]

How anyone could possibly see the republican party as anything short of the party that protects pedos at this point is so far beyond comprehension to me. Truly you are so lost in the sauce if you can’t see what’s happening right now and are planning to vote for this bullshit in the midterms.

[u/pistoffcynic]

They don’t want public hearings. They don’t want the truth coming out. Look at all these rich and powerful men getting their just rewards. Well, there are people richer and more powerful than them trying to hide behind the USA DOJ.

That is why there is all of this distraction. The USA will burn the USA to the ground to protect these people.

[u/RyvenZ]

they knew there wasn't enough damning information to make a spectacle of it publicly, or that the Clintons may incriminate Trump and his allies, so they had to keep it private so they could bury any such details.

[u/jv371]

They deposed the wrong First Lady. Melania is on record having ties to Epstein.

[u/TonberryHS]

Serious question - why can't she just say what she knows publicly? Why does it have to be a hearing? Can't bill just go on a podcast and say "here are 30 people who fucked kids on Epstein Island"?

[u/that_70_show_fan → u/TonberryHS]

I mean she keeps saying the same thing over and over again - that she never met him. Why is everyone expecting she will say anything else? What more can she say?

[u/is_that_optional → u/that_70_show_fan]

2 weeks ago Bill Gates only knew Epstein in passing, last week he was on the island, this week he had multiple affairs. Wait a few days and the Clintons story may also change.

Let´s just hope somebody puts some pressure on the involved republicans too because accountability and justice shouldn´t be political.

[u/BlinkyMJF → u/is_that_optional]

Exactly, some time ago Trump campaigned on the promise to release the files, Bondi said files are on her table, then the files became hoax and after that they didn't exist, but then the DOW, the DOW got over $50000.

Things can change rapidly regarding the files.

[u/that_70_show_fan → u/is_that_optional]

She already deposed. If she said anything untrue, she will held in contempt.

[u/SUPE-snow → u/that_70_show_fan]

Also Bill Gates (and Lutnick and others) have had their claims of not knowing him exposed by the files that have already been released. To date there's nothing out there that proves Hillary lied about Epstein.

[u/dronesitter → u/TonberryHS]

From epsteinexposed.com

Hillary Clinton's connection to the Epstein case is primarily indirect, mediated through her husband Bill Clinton's documented social relationship with Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell. One document reports that Bill Clinton's friendship with Maxwell 'caused a rift' between him and Hillary Clinton (d-33265). Jeffrey Epstein referenced Hillary Clinton in personal emails: in one, he suggested President Obama should 'move Hillary out of state' (i.e., the State Department) and appoint Bill Clinton as Treasury Secretary (d-32841); in another, he forwarded a news article about Ehud Barak meeting Biden, Clinton, Panetta, and Ban Ki-moon (d-33518). Additionally, a 2015 Google Alert sent to Epstein's network aggregated media stories linking the Clinton family to Epstein (d-33562). Several documents reference claims by accuser Sarah Ransome that she possessed sex tapes of Hillary Clinton, Bill Clinton, and Donald Trump, but these claims were cited by Alan Dershowitz specifically to discredit Ransome as 'unbalanced' (d-33969, d-34595, d-32490). No documents in the provided evidence establish a direct personal relationship, financial transaction, or direct communication between Hillary Clinton and Jeffrey Epstein.

Maybe she just doesn't actually know much? She has a history of being a liar like when she "wiped the hard drives with a rag", but unless there's something more substantial in whatever DOJ won't release, it's really Bill that seems to be the freak in the epstein stuff.

[u/SlinkyAvenger → u/TonberryHS]

It's pretty clear that the Clintons' marriage is in some part political. It's not farfetched to imagine Bill has plenty of space to get up to shenanigans, even if it's fucking off to a billionaire's party island. I doubt he told her much of anything and I'm certain that she knows better than to ask.

[u/RabbiTheHellcat → u/TonberryHS]

a big thing has been hush money/blackmail, there's a bunch of victims that basically said the same thing 🙁

[u/ArrogantAnimals]

This was an obvious misuse of time and public funds. Calling her in to press her about her husband’s alleged misconduct and infidelity, was small minded failed effort to publicly shame her! I would also like to know what clown thought it appropriate to raise topics like UFO’s!

[u/queenvalanice]

There are literally men from the files with picture of young woman sitting on them. Why arnt they testifying? Why are they forcing a woman to behind closed doors?

[u/Farzy78]

Can't wait to hear Bill claim he went to the island for charity 😂

[u/SpilledKefir → u/Farzy78]

And how old was Charity at the time?

[u/SoulRebel726]

Cool, now let's investigate the guy mentioned over a million times in the files, and who was his best friend for over a decade.

[u/over_40ish_percent → u/SoulRebel726]

It's ok though... because he says he stopped being besties with him so that automatically nullifies years of child rape from when they were pals.

It's how it works, didn't you know?

You can go do an armed robbery at a store with your best friend but then break off the friendship and you're no longer culpable.

/s

[u/DJ_JOWZY]

I'm not accusing Hillary of anything wrong, but why was a 'casual acquaintance' at her daughter's wedding? 

Was Chelsea close enough friends with Ghislane Maxwell?

EDIT: Asked and answered, she was a +1. 

[u/ITividar → u/DJ_JOWZY]

Maxwell was dating the person that actually got invited, she was the +1.

[u/buddahsumo → u/DJ_JOWZY]

She was someone’s plus 1

[u/AgrajagTheProlonged → u/DJ_JOWZY]

Chelsea knew someone well enough to invite them to her wedding, and that person in turn invited Maxwell as their plus one. So Hillary Clinton’s daughter’s friend’s date was Maxwell. There’s no other plausible explanation for this other than Hillary and Ghislane being BFFs! (/s)

Just adding, most of my friends who I invited to my wedding had never met my parents before. A few of my older friends had been around my folks a good deal, but anyone I knew from college or later would have had very limited reasons to cross paths with my parents before the event, and their dates/spouses/significant others even less so

[u/the_last_0ne → u/AgrajagTheProlonged]

Hell my parents invited family I have never met before or since to my wedding.

[u/kanst → u/AgrajagTheProlonged]

On top of that, Chelsea's wedding was treated as a massive social event. She had over 500 guests including tons of celebrities.

[u/Goodeugoogoolizer]

What a waste of time. Not one of these people is going to tell the truth when questioned. Why bother questioning them. Find the evidence and just arrest them if the evidence supports it.

[u/fauxzempic]

Let's pretend, for a moment, that everything that everyone has alleged about Hillary Clinton was true. The "mysterious" deaths, the scandals, whitewater, Benghazi was a legitimate practice in malicious Secretary of State stuff...let's pretend that she's as awful as they allege.

...she's been questioned for hours and examined and scrutinized and accused...etc...publicly.

How in the world does ANYONE think that they can suddenly break her?

They're questioning her because A. It makes great political theatre for these redhats and B. They think that because of Bill and Jeffrey, they can maybe get her to do some Melinda French Gates stuff on him.

But...when has that EVER worked with her? She's smarter than that. She wanted this to be public because she knew she could not only skate through this, but she'd make them look bad the whole time.

[u/SomeBlueDevil]

I'm not a MAGAt, quite the opposite. But she's definitely lying.

Epstein visited the White House 17 times between 1993 and 1995. His private plane was used numerous times incl trips for the Clinton Foundation. Bill has been photographed in cozy, close poses with Epstein victim Chauntae Davies.

They were acquainted for well over a decade, attended social functions like birthdays (Bill also wrote in his birthday book) and Maxwell attended Chelsea's wedding instead of giving a deposition in the then active Epstein case.

Epstein & Maxwell liked the Clintons over Dotard, so they've been trying to keep them clean.

This is all verifiable.

[u/sfa1500 → u/SomeBlueDevil]

Yeah some of these comments are insane. Her husband was one of the Epsteins most frequent guests even after the public verdict in 2008. And after that period of time she held cabinet positions and ran for President. Calling her and anyone else connected is entirely relevant. Ghislaine was a woman and was Epsteins literal right hand.

[u/CrankyYankers]

When she ran for president I held my nose and voted against trump. My mistrust of her notwithstanding, she has more BALLS than every republican in every office in this country combined.

[u/ModernistGames → u/CrankyYankers]

Not to mention she was RAKED over the coals for her comments about Trump and his supporters, including the "basket of deplorables" comment.

Looking back at her talking about Trump it is painful how she was right about basically everything.

[u/ripChazmo → u/CrankyYankers]

Had she won, we’d be a normal functioning country right now.

[u/papafrog09 → u/ripChazmo]

Honestly I think it would've just delayed this fascist upswing. If the populace didn't freak out at her being nominated they'd freak out at the "results" of her presidency.

[u/Fatscot → u/papafrog09]

A woman telling them what to do after a black man telling them what to do would just be too much for their fragile little brains

[u/kanst → u/Fatscot]

I've come to view so much of MAGA as people screaming "you cant tell me what to do". Its pretty pathetic.

[u/whatlineisitanyway → u/kanst]

Add a healthy dose of also being some of the dumbest people you have ever met and you are spot on.

[u/missingtoezLE → u/CrankyYankers]

Thomas Massie clears her for balls. Not a fan of his but this wouldn't be happening without him and Ro Khanna.

[u/CreativeJudgment3529]

So what was the point?

[u/Dat_Harass]

This is bullshit. Start a trial!

[u/InternationalPoet580]

disappointing they aren't doing this to people in the actual files.

[u/LegitimateSituation4]

Now have Melania up there. She was pretty close to Epstein.

[u/lowteq]

They knew her involvement was a nothing burger. They think hiding it was going to change some stupid optics or something. These bozos are so hung up on appearing like they are working. Time for them to go!

[u/Sphism]

I mean. They could just leak everything they know right?

[u/whydatyou]

to the press, she flat out, denies ever meeting Jeffrey Epstein. She says “I never met the man” definitively. She does not use that same language under oath. While under oath, she says “I do not recall meeting Jeffrey Epstein“. There’s such an important difference there. First, she’s not under oath when she’s talking to the press. also, the press knows this and just continue to cover for the clintons and all democrats. they also know that HRC wanted this behind closed doors. she also said that maxwell was someones "plus one" at her daughters wedding. as if secret service would allow an anonomous "plus one" to attend.

[u/StretchyPlays]

I mean yea her testimony wouldn't reveal much, Bill's is far more important. But the fact that they are bith asking for it to be televised and the administration is refusing makes it pretty clear what's going on.

[u/atomiccheesegod]

Keep in mind that Epstein was first reported to the FBI in the 90s and they did nothing under the Clinton Administration. I believe these two as much as I believe Prince Andrew and Trump

[u/BarelyContainedChaos]

Why are they interviewing her instead of the victims?

[u/SoylentGrunt → u/BarelyContainedChaos]

Republicans don't look for their lost car keys in the dark where they were dropped. They look under the streetlight where it's easier to see.

edit-typo. grammar. language skills. take your pick

[u/p_larrychen → u/SoylentGrunt]

More like they make a show of looking precisely where they know the keys won't be, so that they can blame someone else for dropping the keys when they know full well it was them the whole time.

[u/SoylentGrunt → u/p_larrychen]

Boebert locked her keys in the car with the engine running.

[u/Jellodyne → u/BarelyContainedChaos]

They don't already know what she was doing at the time, but they were with the victims.

[u/Jininmypants]

"I knew these people casually or not at all" says the person that practically ran her husband's political career, a guy whose portrait was in known pedophile Epstein's home and who received millions from him over the years.